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Parveen Panjla

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Started by Parveen Panjla. Last reply by Ray Arcilla Feb 24.

Chander Gujral

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Mark Dalton Comment by Mark Dalton on December 9, 2009 at 2:20am
What do you feel is required to integrate Video surveillance and access control? What do you expect of both? I am used to having both there. Camera watching, and card reader, and sometimes a hand reader also. (Normally I was used to a security person, camera, and my badge which security looked at). And I think of that is pretty light security.
Mark Dalton Comment by Mark Dalton on December 9, 2009 at 2:18am
I think (no real experience on the physical security side, besides employee access) that the issues would be related to.
1. How reliable video can be to ID a person. A simple snap-shot for
each access should be easy, and required at least to show the face.
At least it could give a confidence # in combination with the ID.
2. Plug-in to existing other systems.
AC system should be a plugin to building system
voice, video, hand scan, etc. should be plug-ins
3. Trust of systems
I ran into a hand scan system, and it was poor, I have a stub
finger (one nuckle short) and my co-worker (in security) used
his hand with my badge and got in. There was also a video
feed (but manually monitored).
I grant that every thing can be tuned and it was 10 years ago.

I was actually asked to design a system to:
a. Control and monitor HVAC systems (apparently solutions are expensive)
b. Have physical security
c. And software security (I am basically a software person).
These should really be integrated into one solution, plug-in based.

Gain confidence as tests pass. If paranoid you could even attempt
to keep a database tracking individuals.

I prefer to see total integration of buildings. Of course the HVAC system would only have a subset of the data, as would other systems. But security could have a superset. Noticing:
1. Video surveillance
2. Face recognition
3. Card readers
4. Hand/retina/finger print scans
5. Smoke/fire sensors
6. HVAC sensors
7. Power spikes/usage

And each would return at least:
a. Data type: 1 - 7 (for above)
b. Data (image for 1, ID and confidence value for 2-4, status/level,
last heartbeat test for 5, temperature/etc for 6, voltage for 7)
c. Location
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J P Comment by J P on May 11, 2009 at 10:40pm
hello wael.. what is the solution you have?
Since we are manufactures of enVigil ( www.cradle.com) this might be possible.
We need to integrate with soulutions that are most used though..
regards
jp
wael badawy Comment by wael badawy on February 19, 2009 at 5:30am
we have solution that work, but you need to change the CCTV architecture.
The main problem we are facing is the proprietary nature of the interface
Gary Lahti Comment by Gary Lahti on February 18, 2009 at 7:52pm
Guess that the main reason is the fact that until the recent past the cctv market was an analog world and IP skills were not needed. With the success and proliferation of the IP based products, you are starting to see more hybrid techs who handle the entire array of products and services.
Matt OToole Comment by Matt OToole on February 18, 2009 at 7:46pm
Does anyone else find it unusual that you rarely find a cross-trained engineer for AC and CCTV.
I must admit to not seeing anything on the CCTV side of the fence that truly integrated with a database managed AC system.
Where do you guys see opportunities for integration other than sensor sharing? Could this be another route NVRs and video servers?
Gary Lahti Comment by Gary Lahti on February 18, 2009 at 6:41pm
actually there have been many to attempt an integration but few have been successful.

One that actually had security, access and cctv rolled into one package and on paper looked great. Delivering it was another issue.
 

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